Quick Scoping?

[booshthelurker]

So they "fixed" quick scoping supposedly. There is a short delay to get into scope that wasn't there before the patch.

Here's a scenario: I'm running along and have the FMP G3S equipped and see you come around a corner. I take the gamble that I can get into scope and on your body before you can aim, fire, and kill me.

Is that quick scoping?
If so, is there any way to use the gun without being "cheap?"

Really, I just want to know if that's what quick scoping is. The delay doesn't effect me being quick to get the reticule on many players bodies before they can take me down, and I'm almost always moving around the map and rarely stay stationary longer than 10 seconds.

So, what's your opinion?

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[Juhh1]

Of course it's not cheap. They always see a dot that indicates where they will shoot. You don't, you have to look into the scope and have to calculate with the delay, you have aim carefully because you can't really spray with those things, you constantly have to position yourself with your disadvantage in really close range in mind.
Meanwhile they place the white dot on you and hold down the trigger.

I just started to snipe in close and mid range it can be really rewarding but it is challenging.
It is also really satisfying.

[Chest_Rockwell]

I first heard of quick scoping back in my BF2 days and i never really understood what players were doing besides center/aim/shoot/killing other players. Is it who can center the camera on the enemy the fastest to aim a scoped weapon at close range/kill/shoot.

Or is it strictly a tactic of run 'n gun snipers? Whatever the case, i have a sense of respect for other players who can quick scope me with a high powered sniper rifle at close range. It wasn't as cheap as dolphin diving or wall glitching IMO.

[Juhh1]

I first heard of quick scoping back in my BF2 days and i never really understood what players were doing besides center/aim/shoot/killing other players. Is it who can center the camera on the enemy the fastest to aim a scoped weapon at close range/kill/shoot.

Or is it strictly a tactic of run 'n gun snipers? Whatever the case, i have a sense of respect for other players who can quick scope me with a high powered sniper rifle at close range. It wasn't as cheap as dolphin diving or wall glitching IMO.

The whole QS got it's infamy from CoD where it's really unbalanced and helped way too much on consoles by aim assist.
It's a really long and boring arguement but Its not really present in that form in this game.

[booshthelurker]

I sincerely don't know about quick scoping.

Never used the snipers in RDR as I was a run n gunner. In COD I never used them either. Never played BF series.

I am just grinding the grinds...

[Juhh1]

I sincerely don't know about quick scoping.

Never used the snipers in RDR as I was a run n gunner. In COD I never used them either. Never played BF series.

I am just grinding the grinds...

Oh, I'm sorry, just realised I didn't actually answered your question, just rambled on and on.
It is basically using the sniper close and mid range by running around and not using the scope to look for foes. Upon seeing an enemy, getting them in your sight in a fraction of a second then fire.
The scope is  just used while firing. I hope that was a somewhat good explaination but if you search for it on youtube you will find millions of montages of it.

[UniqueEquine]

For anyone who wants a DETAILED explanation of quick scoping:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quick%20scope


Now what about NO-SCOPING (where you don't hold L2 to aim), is it effective once you imagine the dot on your screen?

[booshthelurker]

@UniqueEquine: I read all the definitions featured in the link above and they don't apply to MP3.

-There is no auto lock on with sniper rifles.
-You have to actually aim and hit them.
-There is no crosshair permanently on the screen meeting when an opponent within the crosshairs.

Also, I have never considered hip firing a sniper rifle. Do people really do that in MP3? 

@Juhh1: I actually appreciated your first response, thank you. I don't feel like a slouch because I can aim quicker than the other guy, but the over powered nature makes being able to aim feel cheap. I hate feeling like a success is a partial failure, but I can't stand just crouching there looking through a scope lol. 

@Chest_Rockwell: LOL the dolphin dive always made me laugh in Black Ops. I don't know the wall glitch. If it's the one from RDR where people snipe over a wall but you can't see them then, yeah, that's cheap IMO. Just like the DE around a corner thing. Total BS. 

I'm really just interested in what happened with quick scoping in relation to MP3. It was supposedly fixed, but I find the sniper rifles still extremely easy to use. IMO the sniper rifles in MP3 should not be 1 hit kills on the arms and legs, but many times they are.

Thanks for your input guys. 

[letsthrowhisshitintherivr]

ive always referred to qsing as a cod specific term. but generally applied its essentially just having a fast sniping by aligning the shot before you scope in. giving you ideally, the fastest scope time possible between scope to shot.

now as far as quickscoping related to cod, theres an eternal debate on whether or not its something thats cheap, exploitive, vs a skill difficult to master. Ill say that in that context id agree that both its easy to learn (if actually doing a proper "quickscope"), but difficult to master consistently.

In max payne 3, quickscoping doesnt seem nearly as important.  In this case its really the opposite for the majority oif players, auto aim for all the other guns, but sniping is completely free aim, giving you more precision, but less cpu assist. This could be seen as a strong disadvantage for those unfomfortable with the free aim. I guess, in a way, quickscoping still works well for the mid to short range encounters (just as cod) if you can get use to the aim reticle orientation, and learn how to be as quick and accurate with ur shots after the initial zoom.

but in the end wouldnt consider it the same as traditional cod shit. no heavy aim assist with snipers, no sway or zoom, not realy ADS time....  qsing to me, more or less its just a phrase for "sniping fast" in max payne 3, which is a valuable tool for anyone.

[RoxiesMD]

I absolutely LOVE what they did with the update supposedly (Nerfing) the snipers. Quickscoping is so much fun for me and if anything, makes it easier to use the sniper at close ranges.

[RoxiesMD]

Furthermore, just throwing it out there, once you get used to it, it's really easy to picture where the center of your screen is.

[TheCatholicBoat]

Also, I have never considered hip firing a sniper rifle. Do people really do that in MP3? 

Yes, it's quite popular in hardcore matches (AKA: Sniper/RPG Wars!), but you don't see it much in soft-lock.

[ABluntedBullet]

Definition of no-scoping.
Aim down the sights, put blue-tack on your TV screen where your reticle is. Now when you fire, just use the right trigger when the blue-tack is on your target and hey presto, one dead opponent. That is how you no-scope.

[letsthrowhisshitintherivr]

Definition of no-scoping.
Aim down the sights, put blue-tack on your TV screen where your reticle is. Now when you fire, just use the right trigger when the blue-tack is on your target and hey presto, one dead opponent. That is how you no-scope.

god thats not no scoping...thats just a cheap ass kiddie call of doody way to exploit FPS (reticle remains in center of screen).

ive always taken no scoping as simply, firing without use of the scope/zoom...

because in a 3rd person shooter, ur reticle changes position constantly. no tape is going to help

[UniqueEquine]

Definition of no-scoping.
Aim down the sights, put blue-tack on your TV screen where your reticle is. Now when you fire, just use the right trigger when the blue-tack is on your target and hey presto, one dead opponent. That is how you no-scope.

god thats not no scoping...thats just a cheap ass kiddie call of doody way to exploit FPS (reticle remains in center of screen).

ive always taken no scoping as simply, firing without use of the scope/zoom...

because in a 3rd person shooter, ur reticle changes position constantly. no tape is going to help

All of my no socpes were pure luck 
Do not try to no scope, it's not practical at all in this game.